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The sound is great on the lawn you just don't get to be quite as close. The only other downside is that it takes forever to get to the bathrooms inside if you don't want to use the porta-potties. People with seats can get there quickly through the side entrance but lawn people have to leave through the front entrance and go in to the store from the main entrance. The porta-potties were very clean if you don't want to make the trek.
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Even though it appears to be over, the debate between kitten and tsinatra, I will chime in and agree with both of you to a certain degree. Neil didn't mean for his church comment to be taken literally for people to come up to the front of the stage, and while I would hardly say people "rushed" the stage, but I do feel for those who were in the front few rows having their view obstructed. I personally was in the 10th row and my view wasn't obstructed at all but what I found more aggravating were the people who went to the concert who made complete fools of themselves talking throughout the show, not paying attention to the concert at all, which not only was disrespectful to fans, but to the band.
Also, when the people went up to the stage, they got as close as they could, I didn't have a problem with that, but then on the left side of the stage a row of about five people stood at their seats which then turned into a shouting match between rows of people asking them to sit down, and those standing. You could tell Neil's reaction to it and I can just bet he was biting his tongue over the matter as he continued to sing. Those that were standing felt they could pointing to their all-access passes they had, and soon after they were on the stage, ushered up there for some reason to watch the stage from the side. Later, I found out that one of them was possibly the bassist for Foo Fighters with his guests, but he seemed embarrassed himself at the outburst as well and was trying to avoid any involvement.
Yes, there is no denying that Neil and the guys want people to stand and have a great time, singing along with the songs, etc. but at the same time, they also probably understand that their core audience are in their late 30's, 40's and older and sometimes people don't want to stand. In some ways you don't want to stand and block someone's view, but at the same time, don't want to appear lifeless and uninterested. The last three shows I have seen going back to the Time on Earth tour, people have sat during the show, but everyone was on their feet during the encores. I am 6'3, so if I stood during the show, I know for a fact I would be blocking more than a few fans views and I don't want to do that if I can avoid it.
Overall the crowd was quite responsive to singing which sounded great and you could clearly tell the band was loving the energy and appreciated everyone's involvement regardless if they were standing or sitting. They preformed all of those Splint Enz songs, something that wasn't probably even on the set list I imagine and even Neil commented he didn't think he had ever performed History Never Repeats with Crowded House before that night. When the band was leaving the stage Neil running back and forth on the stage slapping high fives with fans one could tell he was very happy with the show, the turn out, etc.
Do I personally want to see them there? Yes and no. Yes because I felt it was a nice venue, the weather was nice (thankfully) and it sounded quite good, but no only because of those who attended who were rude by talking during the songs. I went up the next night and took in the Vancouver show, a more subdued crowd but an equally great show.
So that is just my two cents, except you got a quarter's worth instead. ;)
Per your previous posts , your definition of civilized is the "ballet and tennis match" and uncvilized as " stepping on babies and throwing chairs" What about everything else in between? Holding open doors for people. Yielding to other cars on the freeway. Giving up your Starbucks money to a homeless person. Not throwing your cigarettes on the ground. Recycling. I could continue . But i think you get the point. Being civilized is a way of life. Not just reserved for the ballet or a tennis match. With that said. To be civilized is to be aware of your surroundings and respect for your fellow humans. To be uncivilized.... is simply the opposite. ;)
The thing that seems to keep getting lost here, is that it was not anyone being uncivilized that made them go to the front of the stage, it was Neil inviting everyone by saying "Come up, there's plenty of room up front!" I would not have ventured up there otherwise, and I'm quite sure nobody else would have either. It's as simple as that, period! I can't imagine Neil would have expected this kind of controversy to erupt due to it! I've been seeing them live since I was 16..a span of 24 years, and they have always encouraged people to get up, get close, dance, and have a good time. Bands hate to play to an audience that looks like they're just watching t.v.! I would have been happy to stay where I was, but when Neil smilingly invites you to get closer...well, I'm going to! And if it's the money you paid, I paid the same for my ticket...
Seattle concert audiences are notoriously obedient, to the point of being docile! As a performer myself, I know they feed off audience energy, hence Neil's invitation for them to come closer. I just feel you are portraying this situation as one where a bunch of rabid "uncivilized" brutes threw chairs and stepped on babies just to get closer. Neil wanted the fans to get closer, and invited them to do so. End of story!
Anyway, I do not wish to bicker with a fellow CH fan. This site should be for people to come and discuss the music, see photos, get updates, etc. Problems with the venue, i.e. better viewing areas for wheelchairs, maybe having the chairs elevated, etc should be taken up with the venue. To blame those issues on fans who went up to the stage at Neil's very innocent suggestion is not right.
I wish you very pleasant future concert going!
The concert goers that were fortunate to obtain and pay for front row seating should be disregarded by the uncivilized people that rushed the stage? Actually they did after the the first tune. What about the short people sitting in the front row that obtained and paid for those seats for the sole reason to see the band?
Not everyone can stand and dance for 3 hours. Again i did'nt have an issue with Standing an enjoying the concert. However quite a few people did. I do agree with you. This venue is not the best place for a rock concert. Low stage. Flat seating. With that said. I do believe the massive crowd that developed in front the stage rather quickly would be indicative of rushing the stage. As far as my "insults" (uncivlized and rude) in this case is comparable to someone cutting you off on the freeway. To me that is uncivlized and rude. With that said i certainly was not out to offend anyone. My original post were my thoughts and critique. Incidentally, i was lucky enough to see the band back in the early 90s at the Seattle Coliseum. Great Venue. Angled seating and high stage! Imagine that?!
Again..there was no collective "rushing" of the stage. Neil invited anyone and everyone up front. I was not on the stage, but in the middle. As I also stated, I encountered quite a few people from other countries up there, specifically England and Australia, who were quite enjoying themselves. I've actually heard the opposite from visitors, that Seattle concert goers are too sedate, and just sit and applaud, while audiences in other cities/countries are more demonstrative. Like I said, I'm quite short but would never expect a whole venue full of people to sit down to accommodate me, otherwise I'd just stay home and watch the DVD. The band seemed to enjoy the closeness, and interaction they had with the people who chose to go up front at his invitation. It's clear we are not going to agree on this subject, but it was hardly the chaotic, babaric free for all you are describing. If I had chosen to stay seated instead of going up front at Neils invitation, I would not have begrudged the people who did. There is no need for petty insults or name calling. I am not uncivilized because I was up against the stage at a rock concert. Everyone was quite nice and well behaved. Perhaps the winery is better suited for shows that do not encourage dancing, or crowd participation.
Exactly...It was a rock concert. Another typical American trait. Pointing out the most obivious. The goers behind me were pleading with the uncivilized people that rushed the stage as well . From what I recall you were up on stage towards the right. Either way the winery is not the venue for a "rock concert". The seating is not an angle and the stage is too low. The rude people that rushed the stage and blocked not only able bodied people but people in wheel chairs. Apparently they were not in tune with their surroundings.
I just have to comment that Neil invited people to come up to the edge of the stage, there was no barbaric "rushing." I would not have, nor do I believe anyone else would have gone up to the stage unsolicited. I am all in favor of courtesy and respect, but with all due respect, it was a ROCK CONCERT, not the ballet or a tennis match. I don't think anybody intended to be thoughtless or rude. It's called dancing and participating and having a good time. At a concert. Also, the people next to me were from England, so it was not a cultural attitude that made people do it. The people up front were very well behaved, no pushing or shoving. I'm only 5'1 so I am very familiar with having my views at shows obstructed, but I would never tell someone at a show to sit down because of it, I understand it comes with the territory. I respect you for being concerned with everyone's enjoyment of the show, but going up to the stage, invited by Neil, was in no way a malicious or uncivilized action. At the opera, yes. At a Crowded House concert, no.
I MUST SAY CROWDED HOUSE PUT ON A GREAT SHOW . HOWEVER THE CONCERT GOERS WERE INCREDIBILY THOUGHTLESS AND UNCIVILIZED. AFTER THE FIRST TUNE THEY STARTED TO RUSH THE STAGE. THIS WOULDNT REALLY BE A CONCERN IF THE STAGE WAS HIGHER AND THE SEATING AT AN ANGLE. THIS DIDNT SEEM TO REGISTER WITH THE SELFISH CONCERT GOERS. OF COURSE IT'S A CONCERT AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO AT CONCERTS IF THE SEATING ALLOWS. I BELIEVE IF THE GUYS AND GALS THAT RUSHED THE STAGE WERE MORE AWARE OF THEIR SURROUNDINGS AND RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS THAT ACTUALLY WANTED TO VIEW THE MEMBERS OF CROWDED HOUSE. THE SHOW WOULD HAVE BEEN ENJOYED BY ALL. I HAD FRONT ROW SEATS AND I'M TALL SO MY VIEWING WAS NOT IMPACTED, HOWEVER I DID FEEL FOR THE GOERS BEHIND ME THAT COULDNT SEE AND YES LETS NOT FORGET THE DISABLED CONCERT GOERS THAT ATTENDED THE CONCERT IN WHEEL CHAIRS!SO IF THE RAISING OF MY VOICE AND PLEADING WITH OTHERS TO SIT DOWN WAS OFFENSIVE AND RUDE TO SOME. THINK OF OTHERS AND YOUR SURROUNDINGS. THIS SELFISH BEHAVIOUR IS INDICATIVE OF THE AMERICAN ATTITUDE OF "ME FIRST". ALL OF YOU THAT RUSHED THE STAGE SHOULD TRULY TAKE A MINUTE TO REFLECT ON YOUR SELFISH AND UNCIVILIZED BEHAVIOUR. WHO KNOWS? YOU MAY HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART AND SEE YOUR SURROUNDINGS MORE CLEARLY.
Guys, thanks for making a terrific and memorable evening for my son and I. My son is five years old and loves your music. The set list couldn't have been better. The banter and energy were inspiring. Sasha watched the whole show and enjoyed every moment of it. He was very happy for "Weather With You" and "Something So Strong" but really wished that you would have played "Sister Madly". Not disappointed at all though. Thanks again for an evening that will last a lifetime for both my son and I.
The recent concert at the Ste. Michelle Winery in Woodinville was as close to perfection as a concert can get. Thank you guys for literally playing in my backyard, as I never thought I would get to see my favorite band so close to my house. Luckily the weather held up quite nicely, the set list was perfect, a mixture of old, new, and the surprise Enz songs only added to the night and a very responsive crowd. Looking forward to seeing multiple shows on the next tour, which hopefully is sooner rather than later.
You all were so wonderful to my friends and I when we met you backstage. I know I may have been a lot to deal with..I am an "enthusiastic" communicator! But I was grateful for the chance to let you know how much I appreciate you all as musicians and people. I have met the band several times over the years, and it has always been fantastic, but this time was ultra special. What a lovely, warm welcome you gave us! My apologies for being such a chatterbox, but you all treated me as a friend! Photos I took from the night are up on your Facebook page, they are quite humorous!
Again, from the bottom of my heart thank you, Nick, Neil, Matt, and Mark!
Oh, and thanks for donning the white suit jacket, and reenacting the pictures from long ago, Nick!
Until next time!
Jennifer
Flew all the way from Florida for the show. I was unfortunately in California when CH played Orlando!! The winery was a terrific setting. Perfect weather too! Third row center and the band was amazing. Was turned on back in '86 and first got to see them in New York back in '91. Saw Neil in New York as well in '98 and Crowded House again in Atlanta in 2007. Busted a rib a few hours before that show too!! Was worth it.
Drew a Neil pic many years ago too. Got several jobs as a result of this mailer.
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What a great show!! The set list was mixed up beautifully between older and newer songs, and many of them had a more edgier or more atmospheric sound than the recorded versions. Neil played the electric guitar solos with a particularly youthful, energetic vigor. And, of course, the spontaneous humor, casual banter, and slightly flying-by-the-seat-of-the-pants feel were all there. I flew all the way from Houston to see this concert, and it didn't disappoint. And what a great venue -- a little chilly, but that just made the wine all that more delicious. Great sound quality too.
I have to say what an amazing show it was...Was so glad we had a chance to move up front and get a pick from Nick ;) Sorry for the distraction...xx Angie
My Aussie wifey and I attended the "Crowdies" concert and as usual, they made my wife and I fall in love all over again. They do this on a regular basis. My wife's gift to me was the unreleased songs of the Crodwies back in 1999 and I was given the gift of the real talent of Crowded House that most of America was denied. Thank you Neil and Thank you Tim (The Split Enz) for giving my Aussie wife and I the songs that we fell in love by! ~David Wells and Wendy Wells
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